Both of those work very well. ES in the hundreds. Hodgdon shows a similar max charge of H110 (20.0) as Barnes, with similar velocity. Shooters World HEAVY PISTOL. Fast Facts About 300 Blackout. Search: Cfe Blk Vs H110. Share the post "New Hodgdon CFE BLK Powder Great for Small Cartridges", Tags: .221 Fireball, AR, AR16, Ball Powder, CFE 223, CFE BLK, Copper Fouling Eraser, Data Center, Hodgdon, Reduced Fouling. (And from what some say, can possibly go faster). In this case, with 11.5 grains in the case, bullet seated on the powder, COL is 2.220. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Primers showed some flattening, more than I would have expected for only 37,400 psi. It also yields top performance in the 6.8 Remington SPC and the 7.62X39 mm Russian cartridge. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Basically 22 grains, I dropped ten charges and weighed them on a Gempro 250. Here's a simple task you can do that will give your seater die a more perfect fit to your match bullets. 21.88, 22.08 For subs, I run Lil Gun with berry's 220 gr in my 8" at 1050 FPS. Shot roughly 1" groups at 50. . But for sub-sonic loads I have found IMR 4227 under a Barry's 220gr and Accurate 1680 under a Maker 220gr REX work better and are quieter than than similar velocities with the same bullets driven by H110. ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? Rem 7 1/2 813 fps I have probably written it off as a short barrel/pistol gas powder. The added burn time, longer dwell really tames the noise and cuts down on the amount of powder blow back. I have had trouble before with sunny and snow being too bright. Buffalo Bore 155gr Tactical Low Recoil, Speeds, Feeds and Ballistics10MM Slugfest: Speer Gold Dot 200gr 10MM & Federal HST 200gr 10MM, 22LR Challenge/Callout: Lithgow 101 and Eley Semi-Auto Benchrest Precision Ammo, Dayattherange 22LR Leader Score Board Callout : CZ455 Varmint, CFEBLK Powder Testing First Thoughts: Guest Post, Kimber K6S DA/SA 3inch Table Top Review: The Journey Begins. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. Brass looks fine. It will be a very good powder for carbine length systems and probably lighter bullets. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. As someone said above, maybe the case capacity of this brass is lower causing it to be more full???? Its hard an the ears and eyes. Mar 13, 2019. Lil' Gun along with H110/W296 (same powder) and AA1680 are all great powders for 300BLK. Everything I read suggested that more compression is better with this powder from an accuracy standpoint. The Hodgdon loading guide for the 300 Blackout, 150 grn bullet, 16" barrel shows a max recommended load (20.5C grns) that only produces 33,500 PSI max pressure. I use CFE BLK (12gr) for 220gr subsonics. Last weeks load of 11 grains at 2.255 had an ES just over 200 fps. I use H110 mostly for 410 shotshells and 450 Bushmaster heavy loads. I won 4# at a pistol match a while back. 892 fps. So yes..your starting load will be the bullet seating on top of powder. Great accuracy, very consistent and meters well. Like everything else work up your loads slowly and you will find the sweet spot where your gun groups the best. I loaded it with CFE and weighed it. Shooters World SBR-SOCOM. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - CFE BLK vs. H110 for 300 AAC Blackout for Short Barrel ARs. Barrel time. Known for its ability to deliver heavy subsonic bullets for standard AR magazines while cycling the action in suppressed applications, it also works well with lighter supersonic loads, offering a similar external ballistic performance to the 7.62x39mm Russian ( check out my 300 AAC Blackout Review from September 2012 ). With it, I was getting my 158grn .357 Mag loads up to 1,789fps from my 20" Rossi carbine and 1,822fps from my 24" rifle as well as 1,960fps with my 110grn 30 Carbine loads in my M1 Carbines. Sierra Jacketed SP BC: 0.338 2.100" OAL SD: 0.226 Sugg Max StartingVelocity Pressure Load Velocity Pressure Powder Grains FPS Grains H110 Lil Gun . and it gave 1,225 fps at 39,700 psi and a ES of 16 fps. Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. H110 came out much better than A1680 I assume due to the shorter barrel and faster burn rate of H110. It's a very dense powder. })(); To comment on a post, click Post Title or "Comment" Link. Im guessing the tac-tx Ive got will do the same thing. I am also using 220 grain subsonic loads. 11.2 CFE BLK I use W296 only for supers. Hodgdon CFE BLK. There is very low port and muzzle pressure. Im right in the middle of the load data. 150gr Speer Gold Dot (BLK variant) 2.255" Hodgdon CFEBLK 22.8gr 2025fps 25.2gr 2250fps 150gr Speer Gold Dot (BLK variant) 2.255" Accurate 1680 21.3gr 1925fps 23.7gr 2150fps 150gr Speer Boattail Soft Point 2.255" Hodgdon CFEBLK 23.2gr 2075fps 25.8gr 2300fps 150gr Speer Boattail Soft Point 2.255" Accurate 1680 21.7gr 2000fps 24.1gr 2225fps Privacy Policy. I just bought a jug of H110 to start working on a load in that powder my rifle. The powder is growing on me in a carbine gas system. We use it for everything from the 110's to 160+ grain bullets in our 10.5" barrels. 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Hodgdon CFE BLK .308" 2.260" Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER C.O.L. Not quite 1680 loud, but considering the amount of snow on the ground to absorb the noise it was slightly obnoxious. 11.5 grn I like H110 under Barnes 110gr TAC-TX. I only load supers and use the 125 gr Nosler BT. A 16 had very minor flash. In all honesty I do not shoot enough 1680 as a sub powder to compare the two without loading and shooting them side by side. Hodgdon reports the CFE BLK meters well, allowing reloaders to throw very consistent charges every time: This fine powder meters like a dream and leaves no copper residue, extending accuracy for longer shooting periods, and making clean-up quick and easy.. It sucks for subs. Email ( required; will not be published ). Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. In a carbine gas I think it has some real potential. Not being argumentative, just curious. Not sure what weight you are using but I am using it in a 16" carbine length adjustable direct impinge gas system. When we are sold out, we are sold out. by alamo5000 Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:54 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. 2.255 COL, 8 barrel pistol gas I use mostly Hornady heads and I really like this caliber. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. I just dont want to pay the hazmat and more powder if I can make these work. Not sure what weight you are using but I am using it in a 16 carbine length adjustable direct impinge gas system. The left side group that is marked was the 8 barrel, unmarked 18. I have read a variety of ballistic charts and reloading data. 208 Amax It's good for target or mid-range loads in magnums but it's faster burning than AA9, 2400, or H110/WW296, 4227 or Lil'gun. Any updates on CFE BLK loads in the .500? var _gaq = _gaq || []; In addition to being outstanding in the 300 Blackout, it performs well in many smaller capacity cartridges such as the 17 Hornet, 17 Ackley Hornet, 218 Bee, 221 Fireball and many more. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. Hodgdon Trail Boss. Sierra shows a max load of H110 slightly higher than Barnes - 20.5 gr. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Hodgdon says the starting load of cfe blk for that Hyd 110 vmax is 22.5C The 'C' after a load means 'compressed'. 1040 Ramshot Enforcer. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4227. (function() { The original CFE 223 propellant was formulated for reduced copper fouling (CFE in the name refers to Copper Fouling Eraser). I did not want the 18 to go super( ). Lil gun and Win 296/H110 seem to do good for 300gr. 21.96, 22.00. Click "Get Data" to view results. by alamo5000 Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:35 pm, Post Shooters World BLACKOUT. Cartridge Overall Length: 2.02 inches. Please note that I do not load subsonic. I shoot 243 for coyotes and shoot 58gr to 100 gr bullets. Contemplating reloading 300AAC however I have to ask is it really worth it? I would of expected more velocity in 10 of barrel. is the glorified version to run 110-220gr projectiles,sub & super sonic. All Rights Reserved. Accurate 1680 is good for subs and h110, cfe blk, imr 4227 and lil gun work good for supersonic loads. First round had a fairly large flash, next two were just a few sparks, noise was moderate. With an impact velocity of . 11grn 2.040 COL. H110 came out much better than A1680 I assume due to the shorter barrel and faster burn rate of H110. Its a very dense powder. I bought 2 pounds of this powder since it was all I could find. . There was one odd round that had a very low velocity. It is likely bolt speed and compressed powder moving the bullet forward due to moving faster on an empty mag. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/406443/Screenshot_2019-05-14_at_6_52_41_AM-944706.png. The S.A.A.M.I. Starting with heavy supers where I have questioned their load data pressure claims before. -300BlkTalk, 110 grain V-Max CFE BLK load data -300BlkTalk, For Better Bullet Seating Try Lapping Inside of Seating Stems Daily Bulletin, https://www.barnesbullets.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/300AACBlackoutV6ForWeb.pdf, 300 BLK suppressed AR Pistol subsonic reloading, Powder question for reloading 300 Blackout Subsonic. I wanted to see how light of a bullet that could be cycled, I run an 18 1/10 twist carbine gassed rifle, port size is .110 with a M16 Lmt enhanced BCG and a JP heavy/tungsten captured spring using the heaviest spring. Cookie Notice This would be for either a 300gr SMK or 350gr Maker. Have a supply of CFE BLK just in, and while it looks to be a little slow for the standard Hornet, it may work very well in the K-Hornet, especially with 45-50 grain bullets--which may or may not be worth it. You could try seating a bullet with no powder and see how the bullet looks . For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. Next step for me is to load some like I think they should be loaded, instead of the given data. I never used CFE Blk and cannot comment on it, but I have heard great things about it. One new winner* is announced every week! Always let your loads stand for at least an hour and re measure the COL. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. And 300 AAC BLACKOUT with BERGER 115 to 230 grain .30 caliber bullets. var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; It meters well, my Vintage RCBS powder measure was set up to throw 21.3 grains of 1680. 11.5 Grains 2.195 COL. It is going to be in the neighborhood of HS-6, which is too fast for your gun. My 300 is mainly a range blaster so it does what I need it to do. A friend suggested maybe the bullet jacket is just crazy thin on this run of V-Max?? I am working with Lil' Gun right now working up loads for a new addition for me, 458 SOCOM. - Lowell George. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4198. JavaScript is disabled. Ultimate Reloader is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. H110/W296 can give me more velocity with lighter bullet weights. The change in the group from last week to this reflects that. H110 is the powder that was used to make 30 carbine. I pulled my trigger group and stripped my bolt. IMR 4198 does not meter well. Im new to reloading and dont want to make a mistake. FYI I have since found the 125gr FMJ #30196 is FAR better for cheap supers in the caliber, and loaded over 20gr of CFE BLK it is decent, but CFE BLK is better suited as a subsonic powder (or with the 110gr v-max), H110/W296 is FAR better for most supers, 18gr under that 125gr bullet crimped to the cannelure is accurate and IIRC at least 100FPS This spherical propellant is designed expressly for the 300 Remington AAC Blackout cartridge and meters very accurately. When 350 Legend debuted, Winchester claimed it was the fastest straight wall cartridge ever released. A couple of known loads were within reason. I say try all of them and see which ones work best. This powder does not compress easily. If you want maximum velocity, try Alliant 300MP. It's interesting that Hodgdon shows 20g is max load, but Hornady shows 20.2g. The 7.6239 is a bottleneck rimless case meant to be used at intermediate combat ranges (less than 500 yards). I use AA1680 or CFE BLk for subs. Shooters World BLACKOUT. Only powders I've used for BLK so far is 1680 and H110, under 150gr Hornady FMJ BTs. You may not reproduce original text or photos without advanced permission in writing. The first test was 25.0 grs. It provides full function in modern sporting rifles throughout . 2.185 COL I dont have any h110 right now. I almost quit after two rounds. CFE BLK vs. H110 for 300 AAC Blackout for Short Barrel ARs - AR15.COM AR-15 AR Pistols Site Notices TNVC vSHOTT 2023 Livestream MAR 21-23 - Win a TNVC Custom Cobalt Kinetics CK-PRO Rifle! CFE BLK contains our Copper Fouling Eraser ingredient, originally used in military propellant, which greatly deters copper fouling and contributes to longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time. COSteve, I read your post, and I take it that none of the H110 comparison was with 300BO, correct? by ThreeHundredBlackout Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:59 pm, Post Hodgdon Tite Group. Shooters World SBR-SOCOM. 1023 average with 14.0 sd out of a 16" Ruger American. Wolf Small Rifle Magnum primers. A first look at the new Hodgdon CFE BLK powder for 300 blackout. You are using an out of date browser. Any experience with CFE BLK in magnum revolvers? Nonetheless if your ultimate goal is a higher velocity supersonic round I will concur that H110 or W269 is the preferred powder. It was reasonably overcast when shooting, with plenty of snow. The first thing I noticed when I opened a one pound jug was that it looked like they shorted me a half pound of powder. Also good to use with Magnum revolver cartridges like the .357, .41, .44, .454 Casull and .500 S&W magnum cartridges. This week 11.5 grains at 2.195 had and ES 56, SD 21. "Still flying like gypsies, just a little closer to the ground" Trace Adkins. While the S.A.A.M.I.-recommended maximum overall cartridge length is 1.680 inches, my Marlin 1894 feeds 1.720-inch-long rounds without a hitch. More shooting will sort that out. Dellet from 300blacktalk.com forum, ?the leading premiere media outlet where you can learn any and everything about the 300 Blackout caliber?shares his thoughts on the new CFEBLK powder released by Hodgdon after many hours of loading and testing. All the way to the max of 23.7. CFE BLK is a spherical (ball) powder. 1011 It's a lot quieter than CFE BLK with the same velocity, it's amazingly clean and barely notice any gas. I seated the 150 fmjs at the cannelure. I'm also hearing that people are having good results with CFE BLK but according to the burn rate chart CFE BLK is even slower thank A1680. Not impressed would be the word of the day. New Starline 300 Blackout Cases. Can you provide data for reloads using the CFE BLK. JavaScript is disabled. No chronograph readings, I was shooting at night at very short distance. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. If Ive missed anything or something you think I should try ask and Ill see what I can come up with as a test. I think Al in MI uses 300-MP with good results. If they are growing, you have too much compression. Be safe. Back to the Hornady 208 Amax. The initial loads in the original post were by the book. Very accurate. 2.255. I have not used H110 in my blackout, but I have had very good luck with CFE BLK. For sub its dirty and the velocity spread is too high for decent accuracy. Thats a big benefit for varmint shooters, who may put hundreds of rounds through a barrel in a single day on the varmint fields. You can lap the inside of the seater stem so that it matches the exact profile of the bullet. The table I shoot from is white, there was a fair amount debris on the table from the ejection port. The same case holds 26.3 grains of CFE BLk. Originally Posted by Varmint Shooter. I have VERY little imr4227 but I do have cfe blk, lil gun and accurate 1680. LC converted 1.350. Basically 22 grains, I dropped ten charges and weighed them on a Gempro 250. I use H110 under 110gr Vmax bullets and get 2100fps out of an 8.5 inch barrel . A very popular cartridge, this 50AE based case contains a .308 style Hodgdon Lil'Gun. Nope, I don't load 300 BO at all. Mainly because I had a jug or two squirreled away. Hodgdon has announced a new faster variant of its popular CFE 223 powder. Rem 7 1/2 NEW CFE Pistol Reduced-Fouling Pistol Powder from Hodgdon, SHOT Show: Hodgdon Introduces New CFE223 Powder, Hodgdon Claims New CFE223 Ball Powder Deters Copper Fouling, New Redding Powder Measure for Small Varmint Cartridges, New 2012 Hodgdon Reloading Manual Coming Soon. Five shot groups for both barrel lengths. If you're looking for a multi-purpose load for the .300 AAC Blackout, this may be the best bullet. Shooters World BUFFALO RIFLE. Barnes has load data for that bullet, but does not list CFE BLK. JavaScript is disabled. Awesome, thanks. Moreover, CFE BLK is perfect for subsonic, reduced loads. 1038 I was going to Houston anyway but it's a big city with lots of traffic. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. That's the big problem with H110/296. NOTE: Despite the BLK in the name, this is a NOT a black powder substitute. 19 IMR Co IMR GREEN 69 Hodgdon CFE BLK 119 Norma 204 20 Winchester WST 70 Norma 200 120 Hodgdon HYBRID 100V . 1:13" barrel tho. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. CFE BLK gives higher velocities with the 208 grain and heavier bullets. It woukd be hard to raise pressures to dangerous levels with this powder. by alamo5000 Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:46 pm, Post I need to drop some speed, these were cracking at 25 degrees. I did not take a picture of trigger group, it was actually still very clean. 2500fps out of a 14.5" barrel. Clear Ballistics Gel Test, Kimber Camp Guard ? Still a fair amount of gas. That's impossible to get with a 10 grain load. I did not shoot without the suppressor. _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']); Some hunters speculated that it would sound the death knell for . While testing was limited, during the same range session I tried ladder loads with all 3 powders with the same brass, bullets and primers. ALL Bulletin content is copyrighted, 2023 AccurateShooter.com. These subsonic 300 Blackout loads require 30 caliber bullets in the 190-250 grain range which can get real expensive real quick! You are using an out of date browser. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. check out the. of H-110 for the 500 gr.JSP don't think so. Despite this huge disparity in pressure, muzzle velocity of the three is about the same (1,940, 1,971, and 1,899 FPS). Can be used in small rifle cartridges like the .22 Hornet and .30 Carbine. I adjusted my die up in the press and its smoother but man its still marring the bullets with both seating stems. 208 Amax It was designed for the 9mm and the 40 but will work in the 10mm. The 300 is very close to the 30 carbine so that is why it is used. It provides full function in modern sporting rifles throughout a range of bullet weights and is perfect for subsonic loads. Considering the low velocity this is encouraging. The CFE Pistol is made for 9X19, 40, 38 Super and such. Surprisingly they list Lil'Gun as their preferred powder and not H110 or W296. 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