To that end, Stan opens up the treasure trove, eager to share his secrets for maintaining vitality and integrity in a business that can easily rob the unsuspecting of both. And so I have regrets, but they dont hold me back. It was really my only ticket to ride, that was it. I grabbed him and told him what I needed to tell him. A totally different sound, yet completely him., Zanes enrolled in Loyola and spent the next twelve years in universities, eventually getting a Ph.D. from Rochester University in Cultural Studies. Collaboration is a whole other thing, you have to let the collaboration happen, and that's a wonderful lesson to learn. All rights reserved; all wrongs avenged! In 1970 or 1969 when I told my father I was gonna become a professional musician, I may as well have told him I was gonna wear a tutu and dance with bears in the circus [laughs]. The entire band was displeased by those decisions, but Stan was the most vocal. It works really well with him. Basically, youre witnessing the birth of the Traveling Wilburys. A lot of people in this business seem to forget why they wanted to be there in the first place, their values really change a lot. Among his more pointed criticisms concern the song Stop Draggin My Heart Around, which Petty did with Stevie Nicks. I was so vibed. Bio; Contact. I was pleased to see that was still there. I was feeling very insecure about them. It made a big difference for me, and I believe my participation made a huge difference for them., Lynch has stayed on good terms with Heartbreakers keyboardist Benmont Tench during the past 30 years, and the drummer is very open to the idea of one day playing with all the surviving members of the group in some capacity. Im not really there emotionally, he says. But we had a quiet moment at the rehearsals. In Pettys interviews with Zanes, he was as forthright and honest as he is in his songs, talking about his abusive father, his failed marriage, and his heroin use. I tried being late to rehearsals like everybody elseI tried to act disinterestedbut it all backfired on me! Because my nature was to be there 20 minutes early with fuckin' bells on! Are you up for it?, Lynchs first instinct was to decline the offer. So Denny, in that perfect English accent, he blows a big cloud of smoke and says, Stan, if you leave all that shit behind and just play the groove, theyll always misinterpret you as tasteful. That was brilliant. I felt like, perhaps, Id made all the noise I could. He admitted acting wrong and didnt communicate with his bandmates properly. It was still like.this is incredible, I don't want to die here, this is great! Drummer, producer and songwriter Stan Lynch's career reads like a rock'n'roll fairy tale: from 1975 to 1994, as a founding member of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Lynch toured around the world, enjoyed a string of hit records, and gained high acclaim as a drummer's drummer among his peers. I had to hit myself in the face with one of those lights; when you wake up, you wont remember you were ever in a band. Stan Lynch. [laughter] You know, mining the same belly button lint for the 10,000th time. Original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch recently joined an interview with Rolling Stone. That is the fuckin' ride. Oh, my my, oh, hell yes, did Lynch serve those songs well. Completely separate from all that, of course, is the fact that Stan Lynch really is an extremely great drummer. www.moderndrummer.com "You're never fired, you're just not asked to do the next thing". Your contract. I wish somebody had told me that. He described us as not his main gig. Then Covid Trapped Them There. Lynchs run ends after a June 26 show in Aspen, Colorado. Even in the second grade, it was like, the nice way of putting it on the report card: "He seems to be a leader!" I didnt talk to the Bogdanovich people, Lynch says. But this is against everything I stand for, and I can't let you die in front of me.". Date:circa 2000Interviewer: Lee FlierInterviewee: Stan LynchNotes: I found this when browsing an old capture of MusicPlayer.com from the Wayback Machine. That was not a problem for me! I didnt know whether to say, Thank you or Fuck you. I only knew I was grateful to have had the experience of having all those men in my life. And with that, there can be the ultimate cost. Jeff [Lynne] is a constructionist from the Brian. The drummer realized after some point that he didnt want to be in the band anymore due to the personal and musical differences he had with Tom Petty. If I ran a record label, probably one of the first things I'd do is drop half the roster. We got beyond it. Tom Petty was a heroin addict in the 90s. So that guy who is hellbent on keeping things together, because that is who he is, keeps his band together. He decided whatever I was doing he wasnt digging. Yeah, you tank. "We have the same musical pulse we always had," says Campbell of hitting the road with his old Tom Petty bandmate after decades of estrangement. Lynch accepted the offer, and the two re-established their musical partnership. The musician revealed that he wishes he had handled the situation in the band in a more proper way regarding his departure. So the core values are that I'm really comfortable with it, and I always was. It'd be so frightening if your life really hung on that balance, on that fulcrumlike if I was actually sitting here going, "God, the demographic of people that buy records is, uhhh, 18 to 24! What is important is your musical contribution, and to do your job. Thats a long run to have someone in your life one way or another., Campbell sent over the two recent albums he released with his longtime backing band the Dirty Knobs, 2020s Wreckless Abandon and 2022s External Combustion, and told him to learn the songs. That's that old story, by the time you figure that out, they're on to something else anyway. And he said, This is really good. He sounded just like Tom Petty when he said it. He remembered me from the tours. And I said "Hey man, it must be fun working with so-and-so", and he goes, "Yeah, thank God I sold a shitload of records 'cause now I can hang around and make records till the money runs out!" I'm not sayingI'm certainly not bulletproof. I found out hes turned out to be quite a gentleman and a real brother to me., It also turned out they needed a lot less time than they anticipated to lock back in musically. Petty spent the downtime recording his solo album Wildflowers with producer Rick Rubin and every member of the Heartbreakers besides Stan Lynch, a decision that did not sit well with the drummer. Great attitude, he knows how funny this shit is, he knows it's all Spinal Tap. Receive updates & special offers from Modern Drummer and our advertising partners. If you, at 45 now, were to run into yourself at 20, what advice would you give to yourself?Whew! ', I dont give a shit what were playing, adds Lynch. [laughter] And the trick is to stay out of your own way, and to stay out of everybody else's way. Stan Lynch joined Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers in 1974 when Pettys piano player Benmont Tench recruited him. Zanes also coaxed Stan Lynch, the ex-drummer of Petty's longtime backing band, The Heartbreakers, to talk unflinchingly about his falling-out with Petty. They got me a Beatles magazine from 1965, the year I was born. There was a lot of things that were not said that should have been said, he says. I mean, there were days when I was bitter about it, I thought, "Oh, man, I should be Keith Moon!" LikeEverclear - Art Alexakis is talented! But it must be more difficult for the person who's been successful for a long time on their own terms, and then all of a sudden something fails.Yeah, you don't sell records. If you know right from wrong, you speak up. As Petty embarked on his next solo effort, Wildflowers, he knew that it wouldn't be a good idea to let Lynch play on the record, drafting session musician Steve Ferrone for most of the tracks.Though Petty was content to play most of the record without Lynch, his label insisted on having a greatest-hits record led to the original Heartbreakers reuniting for the song 'Mary Jane's Last . He makes a big noise wherever he goes. And he hasnt ever spoken about this before.The first thing he said to me on the subject is I am very concerned that talking about this is putting a bad example out there for young people. That was probably part of the charm was that I didn't know, and I think the very thing that used to be charming became a burden to [the Heartbreakers]. All you need is a CD burner and $300 and you too can have your record on the Internet. Otherwise, I listened to what I already had.. Zaness visits to Pettys compound inMalibu began in 2012. Double Platinum Supporting Member. I'm Bihter. The Petty Archives is not in any way knowingly affiliated, associated, or endorsed by the Tom Petty estate, any of the Heartbreakers, and/or any of their current or previous management. Heres why hes finally talking about it. I had to take all the mementos from the band out of my house, everything. Lynchs portion of the tour was slated to kick off April 23 in Boulder, Colorado, so he had plenty of time to prepare. I don't get the angst. He told me the story of a marriage that wasnt working, but hes was trying as hard as he could to keep it together. I remember when the other guys I was working with would say, "We're only making 300 a week!" So I think that sorta nailed it on the head, I heard that and I never forgot it. So it helps you to get your own inspiration back to be able to really learn to listen to somebody else.Yeah, because usually musicians don't listen, they just critique. I sat and talked to him a year ago, and it was like my long lost brother. Among the acts that Tom Petty took with him on the tour for his 1987 album, Let Me Up (Ive Had Enough), was the Del Fuegos, a Boston-based roots-rock band with ties to the New York hardcore scene. Occupation. The angst actuallywhat draws most people in drives me away. There are times I wish that Petty was more of a self-promoter if only so that his songs could travel a little more widely. You don't know you're gonna make it, you don't know you're gonna get over. And he's also one of the biggest displays of the pitfalls from beyond success: drug addiction, overindulgence, friends that aren't friendsthe peripheral players that just kill you, they bleed you. And I wonder if you have any idea what the core values are that have helped you to stay sane, and also to grow as a person as you've gotten older and avoid becoming stagnant or bitter.Well I have those days.stagnant and bitter, that would describe several weeks of the year. It hurts me to see somebody in that much pain, I really internalize it, it bothers me! Thats a hard thing to arrive at. Id never learned anyone elses parts., He started going over the material at his home studio, and he turned to longtime drummer buddies Kenny Aronoff and Gregg Bissonette for advice. I'm very comfortable with it. It also fucks with the legacy. Hes just not a self-promoter. Joe Jackson, Past, Present, and Fast Forward, A New York Doll Gets the Scorsese Treatment. In addition to academic papers on rock, he wrote the 33 and 1/3 book on Dusty Springfields album Dusty in Memphis. Around 2000, he stopped listening to new musicexcept for Tom Petty. In a recent interview, Lynch recalled some of his most memorable experiences, including his 2002 . There are things I could have handled better, specifically with Mike. Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. Hell, it certainly hurts when you spend a year and the record isn't noticed. Now all those fans have got good reason to celebrate. Stan Lynch was the original drummer for The Heartbreakers. [laughter]. You have left the Del Fuegos. [1] Early years [ edit] Lynch was born in Cincinnati, [2] Ohio, U.S., and moved to Gainesville, Florida, in the early 1960s. And thats not a judgment on Bruce. Keith Moon, his drums sound like he's pushing washing machines over the hill! Ad Choices. So - that's okay! The original four Breakers are all upright as far as I know, he says. They Took a Third Date to Costa Rica. And when it happens, its certainly a big deal. Its because hes trying to succeed at something that his own family failed at, sometimes dramatically. And I couldnt wait for it to end, he said, sipping his coffee. It's either the only thing wrong with that band is you're in it, or the only thing wrong with that band is that he's fucked up. Earlier this year, Stan Lynch reunited with his former bandmate, Mike Campbell, when Campbell asked him to join him on the road with the Dirty Knobs. Like God, I couldn't believe it, we'd get off a bus and people would be screaming and yelling and I couldn't fucking believe it! . "Oh! What do you do when you lose inspiration for a period of time? Joined Jun 3, 2013 Messages 1,601 Reaction score In Lynchs mind, it was a Heartbreakers song. The idea for a new unauthorized Tom Petty biography came from a surprising source: Tom Petty. You stumble upon George Harrison, Jeff Lynne, and Petty in Pettys office, jamming. So, how much is Stan Lynch worth at the age of 67 years old? . It comes up in weird ways. Stan Lynch - Modern Drummer Magazine Features Stan Lynch It's been thirty years since he recorded with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Lets get right to this. 2023 Rolling Stone, LLC. Just think of Breakdowns slinky pulse, the graceful fills that usher in the heavenly chorus in Here Comes My Girl, or the swamp-funk groove of his 1993 Heartbreakers swan song Mary Janes Last Dance.. For now, though, this feature on one of rocks most tasteful timekeepersa true player of the songwill do, for theres plenty to discuss with Lynch. Otherwise it can becomeit's just fetishism, it's just "This is my personal fantasy"of what everyone will love. And he, being the leader of the band, had to do most of the work around it. Come and get it!" Because the problem is when you're young, it's make or break. But hes never really opened up about his split with Petty and the band. Zanes spoke by telephone about Petty.. Longtime Petty manager Tony Dimitriades fired Lynch on the phone shortly after the show, and the drummer didnt say a word to Petty until the group was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002. Theyre all playing but stop because this kid ran into the room with this Beatles magazine. The guy's a fucking hardcore, he lives and eats it, he's destined to be who he is! Its felt really nice to get my friend back., They finally met up a few months ago at Campbells Los Angeles home studio he calls Knobville. They were very bright men. April 25, 2022 Andrew Gulden 1. Im intrigued by your place in this story. We want to hear it. Christ, you're kidding! Tom Petersson from Cheap Trick - didn't hurt him! Id hear that he was auditioning for another group. Which is great, I mean, that means you certainly don't have to compromise! Very few go forever, you know. In a world of headlines, this is going to be a big one. But then, I know guys it didn't hurt. I mean, somebody dies, or somebody hates itto get a run, a creative run, is amazing, period. Another intense moment in the show is Southern Accents. Midway through the tour, Campbell changed the lyrics from Theres a dream I keep having where my mama comes to me/And kneels over by the window and says a prayer for me to Theres a dream I keep having where my brother comes to me Its a change of just one word, but its had a profound impact on the crowd. And yelling and protesting. I learn from them.. We hit a really sweet harmony, says Campbell. When youve worked with bands like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers,Aretha Franklin, Stevie Nicks andthe Eagles, its not a strange thing to be interviewed. Its not just because you need the band to make the music. In other words, he won't shut up! There's actually channels for this. Print Profile Email Profile View Stanford-only Profile Tab Menu . But they're in it for a different ride. This is the birth of the Wilburys. It's like, Mick needs Keith. A lot of the times Id just be focused on what I was doing, but then Id turn around and be like, My God, its Lynch and hes fuckin smoking it! We both started smiling at one point and went, We got something here. I said, How do you digest two albums worth of material? They went, Thats Wednesday for me. Bissonette was going, You chart them out. He soon found himself in the middle of some conversations that the band was having through himconversations they had never had with themselves. They Took a Third Date to Costa Rica. It really came out very intense, at times remorseful, at times angry but he helped the book immeasurably. For Zanes, the tour should have been heaven on earth. It wasn't that I was gonna be a professor or a model or a car driver or a brilliant architect. Family of Tom Petty Partners With Gun Safety Group for Voting Ad, One night, they started warming up backstage by singing Stories We Could Tell, an obscure John Sebastianpenned song that Petty and the Heartbreakers often played in their early days. Sep 18, 2019 #32 John DeChristopher DFO Veteran. Stan: Oh, yeah. When somebody's on a bender you don't yell at 'em. That's all it was about for me. But I think he did because hes had his own experiences with books that portray his heroes as humans. But other people will drag things out of you and it's beautiful if you let it happen. . And at the end of 20 minutes, if you tell me to leave, I will leave. I said, Im probably losing it, I dont know. He said, When The Eagles broke up, I was thirty-three. He couldnt go from music into politics, and Bruce Springsteen could. Having Stan [Lynch] play on that is very cool. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. It doesn't mean that they suck; it means that that particular season they were reading the pitches all wrong! And at the beginning of that second day, it began with Stan asking, Do you mind if I lie on the couch. I was lucky enough to be the guy taping it when he let a lot of that stuff out. Stan Lynch is really an overlooked player in rock. Lynch contributed to the bands first eight albums, and he served as the bands original drummer for two decades until he decided to leave in 1994. Thus, the rocker said he has tons of regrets regarding his time with the band. There are a lot of producers and labels that actually do that.I'm sure they do! Lynch joined his former bandmates during their induction ceremony for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002. Lynch reflecting on his time in Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: There were many things that were not said that should have been said. I think, like Michael Jordan always says, that the fundamentals are what make people great. The old, art commerce divide where people go, oh, its too commercial. The other thing, I was just talking to somebody who was watching a live Tom Petty concert on a computer, no between-song banter. So it was no small surprise in late 2021 when Lynch picked up his phone one day and heard Campbells voice on the other end. I love the scale of life here I always have, drummer Stan Lynch told the crowd of about 80 people listening attentively in plastic folding chairs. Stan talks about his years with Tom Petty & The . I have a proposition for you, said Campbell, who was on the verge of kicking off his first-ever solo tour, but was going to be without regular drummer Matt Laug for a period in the spring and summer when he had commitments in Europe with Italian superstar Vasco Rossi. I just heard "record deal"! Lynch talked to Zanes for two days straight about his long years of having to prove that he was the right drummer. I get it. I didnt want to find out anything that would compromise the mans dignity, Zanes said. He is from OH. So that one, just take it on, don't sidestep that one. Then youre at this party and you hear rumblings that George Harrison is in the building. What do you do if you've had a long run of success and then your music goes out of style with the public taste, your sales are flagging, and there is a lot of pressure from people to change. Stan: Absolutely. We apologized to each other for being assholes and young and stupid, says Campbell. Hes a rock and roller. Below Deck Sailing Yachts Daisy Kelliher Is the Best Chief Stew. I cant tell you whats in it or not in it. Heres what hes acknowledging: That a warts-and-all portrait doesnt throw you into the gutter. So it helps you to step back and maintain that perspective. I couldn't get over it, I always was much more lighthearted about it - even in the darkest days of my drug frenzy, which lasted a full month [laughter]. Don Henley Called Stan Lynch As He Wanted To Record His New Album Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer and famous record producer Stan Lynch has worked with various bands and musicians, such as the Eagles, the Byrds, Bob Dylan, Stevie Nicks, and many more. During his tenure as a Heartbreaker, Lynch became intimately familiar with both the ups and the downs of working in a rock band. Confirmed guests include Jim Keltner, JR Robinson, Rick Marotta, Stan Lynch, Gregg Bissonette, Lenny Castro, Luis Conte, David Garfield, Rich Mangicaro, Ross Garfield (aka Drum Doctor), Harry McCarthy . having this conversation," he said in a 2003 interview with Newsweek. By signing up, you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. . Well that was one of the best interviews ever John! Stan Lynch Since 1977, the world's most widely read drum magazine: in print, online, and the Modern Drummer app. He had had encounters with people who did heroin, and he hit a point in his life when he did not know what to do with the pain he was feeling. Stanley Joseph "Stan" Lynch (born May 21, 1955) is an American musician, songwriter and record producer. You can actually remain on the pedestal that youve earned as an artist. Go to AA meetings, whatever it takes! Other guys, it looks like they went to business school to be rock stars. You gotta find your crowd and then you gotta give it up to them a little too, you know; you can't force them to love you. It's two immovable objects that hit each other at 100 miles an hour, what is gonna happen? So that was the perspective I had immediately. And I want to contribute whatever they'll let me contribute, and I want to learn what they'll let me learn. To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. We know him as a vital member of the classic Heartbreakers lineup. Drummer Talk 273 So you want to MD! Now there's a book in itself." Any book about the fifty-two-year-old Lynch would surely be an entertaining, fairly hilarious read. He left the band in 1994 due to personal differences with Petty. The next incarnation. He didnt like the record. I keep going back to this band and I cant help but feel like the reason the Heartbreakers wont die, cant die, is because Pettys family was so dysfunctional. When a Tom Petty record came out, it was an event. I dont know what it would mean to them since they have a lot more miles than I do, but it would be a joy for me., Campbell says hes not ready for something like that. I dont know how thats going to feel. It's funny, you know, working in a band is a chop; it's just another chop. Lynch isn't looking for the spotlight anymore, though, according to his interview last week. Stan had never heard me sing before, and he was the main harmony singer with Tom. Tensions were thick backstage at the Bridge School Benefit, but the Heartbreakers still delivered an incredibly moving acoustic set featuring You Dont Know How It Feels, I Wont Back Down, Free Fallin' and, appropriately enough, Time To Move On. Heres a gorgeous rendition of Learning To Fly. Nobody knew it at the time, but it was Lynchs final gig with the band. And I also probably would have told myself, don't waste any moments in terms of those six months between tours, where Tom's writing, you should be writing too. John needs Paul. If you're the kind of person who's an addict, or if you know somebody who's an addict, get help! It still blows my mind that that shit that I remember cutting like it was last week is still somehowviewed asREAL! We're a rock band! I have real hills and valleys; I know it's hard to get along with guys like me sometimes too. I just couldnt. All Rights Reserved. Stan Lynch: Drumming in the Music BizInsights on how to stay sane in a crazy business. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. I'd be in a band with him tonight if he'd let me. My take on that record is that I like bands that count to four and play loud. My shot out was that I was gonna be a rock drummer! At 45, Stan Lynch appears to be comfortably making the transition from archetypal wild rock drummer to trusted elder statesman - all the while retaining the same enthusiasm that made him stand out as a drummer, showing a keen interest in helping young artists through the struggles of building a career. Also, I could never really close doors on people that were important in my past. Pettys also addicted, and he gets to work his way out of his. I was playing way too much, trying way too hard. First off, they won't remember, so you've wasted time. Yet, you've actually taken better care of yourself and remained healthier mentally and physically than many of your contemporaries.For me it was always - I really wanted to live! Theres more to this interview! And I interpret that in any way I can: that means spiritually, financially, they know the rudiments, they know their scalesthey've done their homework! No, I don't sign autographs," that kind of shit. Without doing any research, I couldn't tell you what erstwhile Heartbreaker Stan Lynch has been doing with his life for the past three decades. And I'd probably fire 90% of the A&R staff for hiring them. When I heard what happened, it put me right down on my knees, literally. So I think that a lot of people made their best work when they were hungry 'cause they had to. And he was dissing Stan Lynch for being behind the beat. It was the greatest thrill of my life, Zanes said. I never knew how it got there, but it sure wasnt left over from the night before. This is the first time Im talking about it in any depth.. What would I start doing, polling people in high school? Stan: He taught me a lot, sometimes in very abstract ways. The classic situation of midlife pinning a person down to the mat. Hep Alien and Yannick like this. I'm not overly celebrated; I feel like I was given just the right amount of notoriety that I could handle. But I havent seen him again since then.. Since leaving the Heartbreakers, Lynch has gone on to become a successful producer and songwriter, performing those duties with Henley, the Mavericks, Ringo Starr, Matraca Berg, Toto and many others. And I watched really excited people get more excited, and it was just a big amplifier. The musician revealed that he wishes he had handled the situation in the band in a more proper way regarding his departure. 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